Inside the world of sovereign citizens plus the magic of night music

Sovereign citizens believe they’ve discovered a hidden legal system that can set them free from the state. The new book Outlawed explores the strange world of pseudolaw, and what its rise tells us about trust, power and the law. Plus Late Night Live looks at the abiding popularity of calming 'night' music to help people sleep, and how 19th century composers like John Field, Chopin and others first brought us the musical concept of 'nocturnes'. And Late Night Live pays tribute to former producer, Kris Short.

Guests: 

• Harry Hobbs, Associate Professor in the Faculty of Law and Justice at the University of New South Wales, co-author, with Stephen Young, of Outlawed: Responding to the Global Rise of Sovereign Citizens and legal conspiracies.
• Susan Tomes, award-winning pianist and author of 'Nocturnes, and the fascination of night music'.