Former Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson joins Karl Stefanovic for a wide-ranging and confronting conversation about Australia’s future - and why he believes the country is in “serious decline.”Anderson sounds the alarm on Australia’s fuel and food security, warning that the nation is dangerously reliant on overseas supply chains and questioning how prepared we are for another major global disruption.He also takes on Australia’s economic direction, housing affordability, falling living standards, energy policy and the decisions he believes are weakening the country’s ability to compete and prosper.Anderson and Karl discuss the Albanese Government, the growing frustration with Australia’s political leadership, why voters are abandoning the major parties, and whether the country has lost the ambition and leadership required to tackle the challenges ahead.From Australia’s economic future to national security and sovereignty, Anderson asks a fundamental question: “Where is the leadership?”John Anderson joins Karl Stefanovic for a frank conversation about where Australia is heading - and what needs to change.

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