The guys break down David Crowley's narrow primary win over Francesca Hong in Wisconsin — and dig into what it actually says about democratic socialism's popularity. Zak argues DSA politics play worse with regular voters than the online conversation suggests, Rich makes the case that "democratic socialist" policies are really just traditional FDR-era working class economics rebranded, and the crew clashes over whether Kamala Harris's more cautious, private-sector-plus-regulation approach was a smarter pitch or just a losing one. They also get into why voters don't trust the government to run anything well in the first place — and how six decades of Nixon, Iraq, and 2008 got us here.

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