This is a repost by Geoeconomic Competition of Trade-Off, the podcast of DG Trade and Economic Security at the European Commission (https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/trade-podcast_en). So this time, the host is Brian Talty, and your usual host, Francesca Ghiretti, is a guest, together with Denis Redonnet, Deputy Director-General at DG Trade and Economic Security and Rene Summer, Director of Government and policy Advocacy at Ericsson.

Trade isn't just about tariffs—it's about trust. This episode of Trade-Off explores how Europe can stay open while reducing vulnerabilities, and why economic security is about resilience, not protectionism.

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