Nora and Nathan talk about 'petal,' the eighth studio album from Ariana Grande. They discuss the recent public discourse surrounding the singer's body and her decision to step away from public life after her tour ends (1:00), how this album is really about her relationship with fame and fans (25:41), and the highlights from this album, including "stay," "oh well," and "big feelings" (31:48).

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