Chloe travels to Damascus to meet people close to Bashar and Asma. One source tells her that Asma took a drastic decision in the early years of the war - she tried to leave Syria. Only it’s not for the reasons you might think.


We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer.


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Reporter - Chloe Hadjimatheou

Producer - Gary Marshall

Sound design - Karla Patella & Hannah Varrall

Podcast artwork - Lola Williams & Eliza Bourner

Executive producers - Jasper Corbett and Basia Cummings


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