229. The History and Future of America's Public Lands with Will De Man

When the political moment feels overwhelming, what role do public lands actually play? 

Are they a luxury issue or something more fundamental to democracy itself?

These are some of the core questions at the root of our conversation today, but much of what we need to know to protect our public lands might actually come from the history of these lands themselves. 

Will De Man is a Michigan-based educator, writer, and public land advocate. He combines history and advocacy to help his audience understand and respond to the many issues our public lands and national parks are facing. 

And as you’ll hear in my full conversation with Will, he challenges us to reevaluate our relationship with civic engagement, to find beacons of hope through dark times, and to reflect on the history that has brought us to the public lands we know and love today.

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