In Part 2 of this CNG Community Chat, Renee Swanson continues the conversation with three parents navigating parental alienation and covert narcissistic abuse — this time focused on how to protect the relationship with the children they still have access to, and how to hold onto hope with the ones they don't.
The conversation opens with a powerful explanation of why alienation happens the way it does: narcissists often break down the other parent first, creating chaos and instability, so they can step in as the "fun" or "stable" one by comparison — making it far harder for kids to see the dynamic clearly. From there, each parent shares the practical, day-to-day ways they protect their bond with their children: keeping conversations about each child separate from conflict with an ex, using books and movies like Beauty and the Beast and Tangled to name manipulation and control without directly attacking the other parent, working with trauma-informed therapists, and learning to let anger be an acceptable emotion after years of suppressing it.
They also talk honestly about grief — the grief of losing access to a child, the grief of not being believed, and the importance of giving yourself (and your kids) permission not to have all the answers. One parent shares the advice that reframed everything for him: "your child is just the messenger," and how staying present with the child in front of you matters more than fighting every battle in the moment.
This episode is a continuation of Part 1 — if you haven't listened yet, start there for the full context. Whether you're facing active alienation, co-parenting with a narcissist, or working to rebuild trust with an estranged child, this conversation offers validation, practical strategies, and the reminder that healing is possible.
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The Covert Narcissism Podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. Nothing shared here should be taken as professional mental health advice. If you are in crisis or need support, please reach out to a licensed mental health professional.
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