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Plasma makes up 99.9% of visible reality, yet no one talks about what that means for consciousness, healing, and the nature of experience itself.
My guest, Dana Kippel, is an author, filmmaker, and researcher who wrote A New Force after a transcendental meditation session handed her the full definition of plasma in a single moment. She'd barely heard the word before that. Four years later, she's built an entire framework around it.
She argues plasma isn't just the fourth state of matter. It's sentient, feminine, and the layer where consciousness, memory, belief, and physical reality feed back into each other. Ether by another name.
The implications get interesting: why the same "demon" appears differently to different people, why UFOs keep changing shape across centuries, what happens to your beliefs when you die, and why she thinks alien disclosure distracts from a bigger story about your own biofield.
If beliefs shape reality, the question isn't whether that's true; it's what you do with it.
You'll Learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[9:21] Dana's definition of plasma breaks from the mainstream fourth-state-of-matter model
[17:33] Deeply held beliefs get reflected back to you when you die
[30:24] A divine, fixed reality versus one we co-create
[49:08] Clearing “forever chemicals” through plasmoid cavitation, echoed in the unicorn tapestries
[58:55] Waking up to weather modification without co-creative power feeds the thing you fear
[1:43:54] UFOs as plasmoids reflecting your own beliefs
[1:58:42] Repelling Sabrina Wallace's biofield-hacking claims by staying high in love
[2:19:58] Common mistakes channelers make, and the AI psychosis spreading now
[2:25:16] The Maharishi Effect might not be unique to transcendental meditation
[2:32:16] The gnosis of plasma convinced Dana she's never alone
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Resources Mentioned:
A Fool's Wisdom by Steven A Young, PhD | Book or Audiobook
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A New Force | Book
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