David Rothkopf joins Joanna Coles to discuss Trump presidency’s increasingly chaotic—and potentially dangerous—spiral. As Trump retreats further into a bubble of flatterers, key figures around him appear to be pulling away, raising new questions about who is really running the White House. Rothkopf unloads on Trump’s disastrous Iran strategy, arguing that the president has burned through critical U.S. weapons stockpiles and left America dangerously weakened, while Iran now holds the leverage. They also dig into Trump’s escalating attacks on Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, the Republican Party’s increasingly desperate turn toward racism, and the legal battle threatening Trump’s lavish White House ballroom. And as Trump grows more isolated and appears increasingly disengaged, Rothkopf raises a chilling possibility: America could be heading toward another moment in which people behind the scenes—not the president himself—are effectively making the decisions.

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