In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, host Susan Lambert, Ed.D., does something a little different, sharing her own research alongside that of her guest, Sonia Cabell, Ph.D. Together, they trace how Sonia's large-scale Institute of Education Sciences (IES) study directly inspired Susan's dissertation, and what that process reveals about how evidence in literacy education actually gets built. Susan and Sonia also discuss what Sonia's IES study on content-rich literacy instruction found; how Susan's own dissertation research built directly on those findings; what it really means for research to "accumulate" and why it matters for classroom practice.
"The Science of Reading is not like a product. It's not a thing. It's an ever-accumulating body of work." —Sonia Cabell
"You're doing better than you think. Keep being a learner." —Sonia Cabell
"It's the accumulation of research over time that leads us to an evidence base, not just any one study." —Sonia Cabell
Timestamps*: 0:00 Introduction: How research builds on research 3:00 Sonia's research focus: oral language as the foundation of reading 7:00 The origin of the IES study 10:00 Sonia's study design and what cut it short 16:00 Results of the IES study 23:00 What is an IES study? 25:00 Causation versus correlation 28:00 Susan's dissertation: building on Sonia's research 31:00 What Susan found 35:00 "It's not about just one landmark study" 41:00 Trusted organizations for educators 44:00 Reasons for optimism 48:00 Closing thoughts *Timestamps are approximate
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