Ben Cardew spoke to the hugely talented musician, poet, director and actor Saul Williams ahead of the release of his new album, Leap Life, in August. In a wide-ranging and very revealing interview, they spoke about that new album, but also the role that music plays in Williams’ life, trusting the moment, shamanism and ceremony, headphone listening, technology, Sun Ra, optimism, Paris and more. Naturally, Ben also asked him about his magnificent DJ Krust collab. Coded Language and - for film fans - they discussed his role as a preacher in Sinners. Line Noise comes to you with the support of Cupra.

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